Do foes, not suffer DP in HM? - Guild Wars Forums

Puddin Cheeks · May 31, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17

I only ask because i am trying to vanquish Riven Earth and I have hit a group of 6, yes six, of the Simian Spiritcaller Spammers of flesh of my flesh. I have killed them all , now about 30 times, WTF mate. What can i do without redoing the whole f'ing map. This is fail i think in total of being broken.

It also doesnt list on Wiki if this is a fact or not. It only seems fair if they can gain xp, (via deathleveling, Pre-searing), that they should suffer the same Death Penalty we do in HM. Is that way off?

Daisuko · May 31, 2009, 12:54 AM // 00:54

wtb moar domoge? I don't recall if monsters get DP or not, but either way just kill them all before they can resurrect? I beat that area ages ago on my ranger hero/hench, so I'm sure you can too.

October Jade · May 31, 2009, 12:57 AM // 00:57

wts frozen soil 1k

Puddin Cheeks · May 31, 2009, 01:01 AM // 01:01

I ended up getting it but it took longer than the whole rest of the freakin area. I am sad that, they even spawned together like that.

It is an extreme anet fail i think. I had plenty of damage and I wouldnt change my whole build just to be /R and have frozen soil in a non-elite area. It was bad.

lewis91 · May 31, 2009, 01:16 AM // 01:16

lol i started a thread about this a while back asking the same thing, i was stuck on a bunch of charr with 2 healers (one lvl 30 boss) and a rt, and a dominator (they have hard rez) and i just couldnt kill them fast enough. So i started a thread asking (venting some steam too) the general reply was "i don't know"

Well alot of people said yes, alot said no, so i drew the conclusion noone knows. So i just stopped the vanq and come back with frozen soil.

Il ask regina next time i see her online xD

riceangel · May 31, 2009, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Since you can death lvl things, maybe that means when you die they get exp and get rid of their dp?

glacialphoenix · May 31, 2009, 01:43 AM // 01:43

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I only ask because i am trying to vanquish Riven Earth and I have hit a group of 6, yes six, of the Simian Spiritcaller Spammers of flesh of my flesh. I have killed them all , now about 30 times, WTF mate. What can i do without redoing the whole f'ing map. This is fail i think in total of being broken.

I met four. It helps if you attack right after they rez, because flesh of my flesh sacrifices half your health.

Alternatively... interrupts? Maybe you hit more than one group? It could be that foes in HM do get DP, just that the buff makes it relatively negligible compared to DP on you.

Puddin Cheeks · May 31, 2009, 02:22 AM // 02:22

my party was 10% boost the whole time , discord with henchies. It was 5 of them in one group (after looking at screenshot), I couldnt interrupt 4 flesh of my flesh at the same time, it was like they all spammed it. In my 4 years of playing it was the top 5 on gayest spawns ever.

glacialphoenix · May 31, 2009, 02:29 AM // 02:29

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my party was 10% boost the whole time , discord with henchies. It was 5 of them in one group (after looking at screenshot), I couldnt interrupt 4 flesh of my flesh at the same time, it was like they all spammed it. In my 4 years of playing it was the top 5 on gayest spawns ever.

Yeah, I ran into something similar - after two people disconnected but we were unwilling to restart because we were already halfway through. Best chance is to spike them right after they rez, I guess - take advantage of the health sac, like I said.

sosycpsycho · May 31, 2009, 04:31 AM // 04:31

I have had this spawn in this zone before as well in hm, I almost ended up having to throw in the towel and I was at +10% when I encountered them. the way I finally beat them was to pull them to the utmost length of their chasing range and kill them off while they ran back and forth.

Daisuko · May 31, 2009, 05:32 AM // 05:32

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Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks

my party was 10% boost the whole time , discord with henchies. It was 5 of them in one group (after looking at screenshot), I couldnt interrupt 4 flesh of my flesh at the same time, it was like they all spammed it. In my 4 years of playing it was the top 5 on gayest spawns ever.

I have to laugh, because your primary problem is....

dun dun dun dun! Discord. If you were actually using a good build instead of just a pvx nub build you wouldn't have had any issues... but as it was, simian spiritcallers have excellent condition removal, nullifying your primary damage.

arcanemacabre · May 31, 2009, 07:18 AM // 07:18

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Originally Posted by Daisuko

I have to laugh, because your primary problem is....

dun dun dun dun! Discord. If you were actually using a good build instead of just a pvx nub build you wouldn't have had any issues... but as it was, simian spiritcallers have excellent condition removal, nullifying your primary damage.

I have to agree. I just vanquished that zone tonight and encountered the exact same group, but had no issues - it took maybe twice the time to kill them than a normal simian group. The secret here is pressure. Flesh of my flesh knocks them down halfway each time they cast it, so if you keep constant AoE pressure on all of them, when they start falling and rezzing, they just get weaker and weaker till they all go down. Minions + MoP + Splinter Weapon = well, yeah, Sabway... It may also be a "pvx nub build," but it's sooo much better than Discordway.

Coast · May 31, 2009, 09:12 AM // 09:12

both builds work excellent, just not in every area

May 31, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17	#1
Puddin Cheeks Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On Welfare Guild: Jelly of the Month [Club]	Do foes, not suffer DP in HM? I only ask because i am trying to vanquish Riven Earth and I have hit a group of 6, yes six, of the Simian Spiritcaller Spammers of flesh of my flesh. I have killed them all , now about 30 times, WTF mate. What can i do without redoing the whole f'ing map. This is fail i think in total of being broken. It also doesnt list on Wiki if this is a fact or not. It only seems fair if they can gain xp, (via deathleveling, Pre-searing), that they should suffer the same Death Penalty we do in HM. Is that way off? Last edited by Puddin Cheeks; May 31, 2009 at 01:13 AM // 01:13.. Reason: EDIT: why move, I had legitemate discussion

May 31, 2009, 01:16 AM // 01:16	#5
lewis91 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wales Guild: Order of the Azurelight[OA] Profession: E/	lol i started a thread about this a while back asking the same thing, i was stuck on a bunch of charr with 2 healers (one lvl 30 boss) and a rt, and a dominator (they have hard rez) and i just couldnt kill them fast enough. So i started a thread asking (venting some steam too) the general reply was "i don't know" Well alot of people said yes, alot said no, so i drew the conclusion noone knows. So i just stopped the vanq and come back with frozen soil. Il ask regina next time i see her online xD Last edited by lewis91; May 31, 2009 at 01:32 AM // 01:32.. Reason: stupidity fix.

May 31, 2009, 02:22 AM // 02:22	#8
Puddin Cheeks Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On Welfare Guild: Jelly of the Month [Club]	my party was 10% boost the whole time , discord with henchies. It was 5 of them in one group (after looking at screenshot), I couldnt interrupt 4 flesh of my flesh at the same time, it was like they all spammed it. In my 4 years of playing it was the top 5 on gayest spawns ever. Last edited by Puddin Cheeks; May 31, 2009 at 02:26 AM // 02:26..

May 31, 2009, 09:12 AM // 09:12	#13
Coast Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Belgium Guild: Whats Going On [sup] Profession: Mo/	both builds work excellent, just not in every area Last edited by Coast; May 31, 2009 at 09:12 AM // 09:12.. Reason: rephrasing

May 31, 2009, 12:54 AM // 00:54	#2
Daisuko Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: California Guild: [Vr] Profession: E/Me	wtb moar domoge? I don't recall if monsters get DP or not, but either way just kill them all before they can resurrect? I beat that area ages ago on my ranger hero/hench, so I'm sure you can too.

May 31, 2009, 12:57 AM // 00:57	#3
October Jade Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: drifting between Indiana and NorCal	wts frozen soil 1k

May 31, 2009, 01:01 AM // 01:01	#4
Puddin Cheeks Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On Welfare Guild: Jelly of the Month [Club]	I ended up getting it but it took longer than the whole rest of the freakin area. I am sad that, they even spawned together like that. It is an extreme anet fail i think. I had plenty of damage and I wouldnt change my whole build just to be /R and have frozen soil in a non-elite area. It was bad.

May 31, 2009, 01:30 AM // 01:30	#6
riceangel Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Floirda Guild: [ASH]IGN: Tokyo Hina Profession: W/E	Since you can death lvl things, maybe that means when you die they get exp and get rid of their dp?

May 31, 2009, 04:31 AM // 04:31	#10
sosycpsycho Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2008 Location: Atlanta Guild: Krazy Guild With Krazy People[KrZy]	I have had this spawn in this zone before as well in hm, I almost ended up having to throw in the towel and I was at +10% when I encountered them. the way I finally beat them was to pull them to the utmost length of their chasing range and kill them off while they ran back and forth.